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An attack on one of us…

I’ve said for years now that Israel is just in the canary in the coalmine. This should be a self-evident truth after 9/11, Madrid, London, Mumbai, Charlie Hebdo, Paris (yet again) etc. Tomorrow, it could be Berlin. Tomorrow it could be Luxembourg. Tomorrow it could be me or you. We are at all at war with „islamic totalitarianism“. Not because we want, but because our enemies have declared war on us. People who hate the western world because they hate individual freedom, women’s rights, the separation of religion and state… 😦

I hope that finally everybody understands that we are all in the same boat, whatever our political differences may be. Whether you are a liberal, a conservative, a socialdemocrat … shouldn’t matter when it comes to defending our freedom, our core values, our homes. Though, of course, we may argue about the „how“ to do it best.

The same for the different democratic countries. They need to stand together.
AN ATTACK ON ONE OF US IS AN ATTACK ON ALL OF US ! And it’s time every citizen finally understands this.

If you make a difference between bombs, knives and cars killing people in Israel (jews and arabs alike, btw) on the one side and bombs and guns killing europeans on the other side, you are insane and don’t understand anything about the world we live in today.

Of course, this also means that the EU needs to stop financing Hamas in the Gaza Strip. They are the same ideological ilk.

I end with a quote by my friend lalibertine: „Let’s fight the scourge of our days: islamic totalitarianism. We should deal with it like the Israelis do, calm and collected,yet determined. The situation is not pleasant but, compared to the state the Western world was in from 1914-1945, we still have it relatively easy.“ Amen.

Siehe auch:
beer7: Terror ist Terror, aber natürlich nicht in Israel

Paris

November 14, 2015 - Posted by | Frankreich, Islamismus, Israel |

10 Kommentare »

  1. In a very first reaction, just be secure not to fight fire with fire. Some sort of european patriot act is on the way. And then, we will give up our most core.
    (Besides, I’m not convinced if it is really culture war, though. And if the paralell with Israel is adequate… i doubt it)

    Kommentar von JayJay | November 14, 2015

  2. I agree with your concerns regarding civil rights. Of course, I don’t want an european Patriot Act, Guantanamo Bay etc. I just wanted to say, that we need to show solidarity. If one of us is attacked, the others are too.

    What I wanted to say with Israel is basically what David Cameron has said months ago after the attacks on Charlie Hebdo: „If you condemn terrorist attacks in Paris, but don’t condemn them in Israel, you are at best a hypocrite, at worst something else.“ Why making a difference? Especially because it’s for me the same enemy: islamic totalitarianism. Do I ask too much if I expect the same kind of solidarity for Israel I automatically show for France, Great-Britain, the US, India etc. when they are hit by fanatics?

    Kommentar von CK | November 14, 2015

  3. At least the attack on Bataclan has more to do with Israel than even myself had thought:
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/bataclan-theater-long-a-target-of-anti-zionist-groups-report-says/

    So, even if I am still very interested in other people’s ideas, I doubt that anyone will succeed in convincing me that I am not right in seeing the big picture I actually see for years now. The big picture of islamic totalitarians attacking the West and their allies and everyone they see as traitors, including many so-called „moderate muslims“ and too „western-friendly governments“ (cf all the terrorist attacks in Indonesia for example.)

    Kommentar von CK | November 14, 2015

  4. You’re missing in your „big picture“ that the members of the IS do not know much about Islam. Being anti-west and being pro-islamistic are not just semantically very different things and the search for a place to belong to is a very complex process. Being outcasted from the big dream promoted by the west (who continues more & more to fail in it) is an inherent contradiction of how the west sees itself. The idea, that we are confronting some other or foreign ideology is fundameltally flawed. IS is the backside of our western culture, their actions are a dark view at our very own culture through a distorted mirror.

    Kommentar von JayJay | November 14, 2015

  5. „You’re missing in your “big picture” that the members of the IS do not know much about Islam.“

    It’s true- I think Majiid Nawaz said it already many times, a very interesting thinker, btw- that, exceptions like Ayatollah Khomeny putting aside, most islamofascists are not very wellread in theological literature. They are often led by extremist secondary literature, ideological propaganda etc. This is also true of Christian fanatics in the Bible Belt. Very often the most agressive proponents of an ideology are those, who think they know a lot but don’t. But I doubt if that is a reason to change the label, especially because totalitarians often have very simplistic, superficial views. But if someone offers a better label, I am open to use this new one.

    „Being outcasted from the big dream promoted by the west (who continues more & more to fail in it) is an inherent contradiction of how the west sees itself.“

    What is the big dream promoted by the West for you? For me, it’s the possibility to live one’s own life. That’s what I value here. It’s NOT having a lot of money, though I am not poor either. Perhaps, too many people make the error of not being happy with what they have here because they dream of the wrong things. And the terrorists are not only marginalized people or outcasts.

    „The idea, that we are confronting some other or foreign ideology is fundameltally flawed.“

    I wouldn’t say, the ideology is completely foreign, especially because I am well aware that they took ideas from (european !) fascism. But I consider it an other ideology as opposed to the so-called „western ideology“.

    Kommentar von CK | November 14, 2015

  6. “You’re missing in your “big picture” that the members of the IS do not know much about Islam.”

    It’s true- I think Majiid Nawaz said it already many times, a very interesting thinker, btw- that, exceptions like Ayatollah Khomeny putting aside, most islamofascists are not very wellread in theological literature. They are often led by extremist secondary literature, ideological propaganda etc. This is also true of Christian fanatics in the Bible Belt. Very often the most agressive proponents of an ideology are those, who think they know a lot but don’t. But I doubt if that is a reason to change the label, especially because totalitarians often have very simplistic, superficial views. But if someone offers a better label, I am open to use this new one.

    My question is: If they knew Islam better, meaning if they knew Quran and Hadith better, would this lead them to a more peaceful life? I doubt it. It seems rather difficult to justify Western style tolerance by quoting original content of the written records that are regarded as more (Quran) or less (Hadith) holy in the islamic word. One needs additional secondary literature and references to historic traditions to change discussions in another direction.

    Let’s remember that the usual argument is: There is no such thing as „the“ Islam. That’s true. So we have to admit that the IS guys know one certain interpretation of Islam very well. It’s up to Muslims all over the world to show that the IS version is the wrong one. Atheists and Christians can’t do that because they quite certainly lack in credibility.

    Kommentar von Werwohlf | November 15, 2015

  7. @Werwohlf: I completely agree with you. Any thoughts of yours on JayJay’s explanations?

    And thanks for the link I’ve found on your website:
    http://www.ruhrbarone.de/frankreichs-911-und-der-antisemitische-islamismus/117099

    Kommentar von CK | November 19, 2015

  8. @8.

    What do you mean? The comment at #4? I don’t intend to bother JayJay but I think it’s kind of Western arrogance, or – if you like – even neo-colonialism or racism (I wouldn’t put it that way but I know enough guys who would if it was the other way round) to blame Western societies for Islamistic terrorism, directly or indirectly. Those guys are to be held responsible for what they did, and also the persons that washed their brains so much that they had no qualms killing innocent people and eventually themselves. We can’t deny the role Islam itself plays here. So it’s not up to Western societies to rethink their self-concepts but to Muslims all over the world, especially in Europe.

    Kommentar von Werwohlf | November 22, 2015

  9. @Werwohlf: The comment 4 is explained in detail in a new posting in german language: „Das Versprechen“. In don’t know if you’ve read it already. I guess we all agree that the responsible for the terror attacks should pay for what they’ve done and I absolutely agree with you that european muslims must fight the (mis)-use of their religion. But it’s an interesting question if our (western) consumption societies fail certain people (for whatever reasons) which makes them vulnerable to any kind of totalitarianism (not necessarily islamic totalitarianism).

    Kommentar von CK | November 23, 2015


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